I Want Bigger & Better Than This!!

5Babies · Sep 12, 2008

I want a more powerful pc than what I have, I'm new to this Upgrade/Build your own PC stuff & I definately don't understand all the computer jargon (so to speak).

I've attached the specs to my current pc & what I want to know is can I upgrade this system or would I be better off building from scratch?

Foxconn TLM-614 ATX MiniTower - Black, 350W PSU, drive bays: 2x5.25" & 2x3.5" ext,
4x3.5" int, front

Matador Value Vista Premium System, Miditower, Athlon 64 3700+ 2.2GHz, 1GB RAM,
80GB HDD, DVD Burner

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ CPU, "San Diego Core", 2.2GHz, HT2000 MT/s, 1MB L2 Cache,
Socket 939, Boxed

Samsung 80GR 'HD08GHJ' SATA" 3Gb/s NCQ HDD - 7200rpm, 8,MB Cache,
NoiseGuard, ImpacGuard, SilentSee

Computer Kit Build

MSI K8NGM2-L mATX M/board - GF6100 + nForce 410 Chipset, HT2000, Dual Channel
DDR 266/333/400, Int.

Samsung SH-S182D Blac Internal DOUBLE Layer 18x DVD±RW Drive, 12x DVD-RAM,
8x±R DL, OEM with NERO

Micosoft Office 2007 60-day Free Trial Included

Dual on-board 10/100 Network Card

Onboard 8-channel Audio (7.1)

Computer MATADOR Deluxe

512 MB PC-3200 DDR RAM - OEM, 3-year manufacturers warranty

'DOUBLE H' SILVER Internal Multi-in-' 3.5" front bay Card Reader with 1x USB2.0 port

32-bit MS Windows Vista Home Premium 1-Pack OEM DVD Operating System

Hightech ATI X1650Pro PCI-E 256MB 128-bit DDR2, VGA, Dual Link DVI, TV Out, Fan

What I want for a new pc is (bear with me on this please

CPU:- Intel Core 2 Duo
2.6GHz or Higher
64-bit Operating System
3-4GB DDR2 SDRAM
750GB-1TB HDD
Graphics Card
Sound Card
Faster DVD Burner
Multi card reader
Bluetooth
I want to keep my current software-Windows Vista Home Premium(love it)
I would love it, if it could be quiet.

My current system was quiet when i first got it, but now as soon as it gets turned on & boots up, it whirrs, rattles & makes one hell of a noise that I'm scared it's going to blow up on me :eek:

I've been looking at the parts i want, but then i don't know if they'll be compatible with each other, as for the motherboard I've no idea?

I want to know if someone could help me in regards to building a new system with above requirements if it's possible?

Also this might seem like a really stupid question, but are USA/UK & Australia parts all the same or are they different like power supply is?

Thank you in advace for any advice or help I get, it'll be greatly appreciated.

3870x2 · Sep 12, 2008

the power supplies are fully interchangeable. The media IE movies/games/etc will be NTSC for us or PAL for europe. Google is your friend if you arent sure.

BarbaricSoul · Sep 12, 2008

IMHO, you'll be better of building a new system. If you give us a idea of your budget, we can help you with a build.

ZenZimZaliben · Sep 12, 2008

Time for a complete system rebuild. That PC is very dated. Give to grandma for AOL email and build a new system.

Whats your budget?

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

3-4gb of ram???

Just as an fyi that's almost completely useless for gaming.

mullered07 · Sep 12, 2008

4gb isnt useless for gaming is it ? :rolleyes:

a budget would help out as others have suggested, you could part out your old parts to help you a tad

kyle2020 · Sep 12, 2008

niko084 said:
3-4gb of ram???

Just as an fyi that's almost completely useless for gaming.

could you possibly be more wrong? With 4GB RAM, vista home premium x64 and playing crysis my ram peaks at about 75% useage - add music and some background apps to that and it bumps up even more.

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

kyle2020 said:
could you possibly be more wrong? With 4GB RAM, vista home premium x64 and playing crysis my ram peaks at about 75% useage - add music and some background apps to that and it bumps up even more.

The point is you wont see jack for difference in your fps, now don't go playing a movie, some music and a virus scan and run a benchmark with the game.....

I have another machine with Vista x64 e6420 @ 3.2 and 4gb of ram the only game I ever get any performance difference in is Supreme Commander, which is a memory HOG in long 4+ player games.

Remember where free ram is vista will use, it doesn't mean your going to get anything out of it.

I mean that may change in the near future, but currently its absolutely minimal.
Not saying don't buy 4gb, just saying the difference is nill is existent at all.

qamulek · Sep 12, 2008

3-4gb is a must for windows x64 gaming :ohwell:

Using windows vista x64 while playing UT3 with only 2gb of ram results in lots of stuttering, while adding another 2gb stopped that horrible stutter. Crazy enough though 2gb was plenty while playing UT3 on windows vista x86 :confused:

kyle2020 · Sep 12, 2008

niko084 said:
The point is you wont see jack for difference in your fps, now don't go playing a movie, some music and a virus scan and run a benchmark with the game.....

I have another machine with Vista x64 e6420 @ 3.2 and 4gb of ram the only game I ever get any performance difference in is Supreme Commander, which is a memory HOG in long 4+ player games.

Remember where free ram is vista will use, it doesn't mean your going to get anything out of it.

I mean that may change in the near future, but currently its absolutely minimal.
Not saying don't buy 4gb, just saying the difference is nill is existent at all.

i see your point, fps wise, no it will be virtually impossible to detect any difference, however multi tasking and so on you will see a positive effect, be it loading times or whatever. Sorry to seem rash on that last post mate

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

qamulek said:
3-4gb is a must for windows x64 gaming
Using windows vista x64 while playing UT3 with only 2gb of ram results in lots of stuttering, while adding another 2gb stopped that horrible stutter. Crazy enough though 2gb was plenty while playing UT3 on windows vista x86

ROFL... Stuttering, in that game didn't occur with my 2600xt and a e6420 @ 2.13 with 2gb of ram in Vista Ultimate x64....

I think someones machine was screwed up.

Darknova · Sep 12, 2008

niko084 said:
The point is you wont see jack for difference in your fps, now don't go playing a movie, some music and a virus scan and run a benchmark with the game.....

I have another machine with Vista x64 e6420 @ 3.2 and 4gb of ram the only game I ever get any performance difference in is Supreme Commander, which is a memory HOG in long 4+ player games.

Remember where free ram is vista will use, it doesn't mean your going to get anything out of it.

I mean that may change in the near future, but currently its absolutely minimal.
Not saying don't buy 4gb, just saying the difference is nill is existent at all.

I agree with you about gaming, I never saw a difference, but in everything else I did. Things were smoother, programs were loading up quicker. IMO that was worth the money.

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

kyle2020 said:
i see your point, fps wise, no it will be virtually impossible to detect any difference, however multi tasking and so on you will see a positive effect, be it loading times or whatever.. Sorry to seem rash on that last post mate

Nah you were not rash by all means, and you are correct in heavier multitasking you will probably see a little bit here and there because vista will use the ram, it will make it feel quicker.

kyle2020 · Sep 12, 2008

Darknova said:
I agree with you about gaming, I never saw a difference, but in everything else I did. Things were smoother, programs were loading up quicker. IMO that was worth the money.

and i'll happily say "+1 on that".

qamulek · Sep 12, 2008

niko084 said:
ROFL... Stuttering, in that game didn't occur with my 2600xt and a e6420 @ 2.13 with 2gb of ram in Vista Ultimate x64....

I think someones machine was screwed up.

I was running at 1680x1050 with all settings to max and AA forced meaning most likely some data was being pushed from the video card into the ram then being overflowed into the HDD causing horrible stutter. I could turn off AA and the stutter for the most part disappeared which made me believe that I reached the 512mb limit of my video card, but I noticed that the stutter only happened when the game was trying to load in another part of that map. Just to see if it would help I slapped in 2gb of value ram[value as in crap], and all the stutter went away.

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

qamulek said:
I was running at 1680x1050 with all settings to max and AA forced meaning most likely some data was being pushed from the video card into the ram then being overflowed into the HDD causing horrible stutter. I could turn off AA and the stutter for the most part disappeared which made me believe that I reached the 512mb limit of my video card, but I noticed that the stutter only happened when the game was trying to load in another part of that map. Just to see if it would help I slapped in 2gb of value ram[value as in crap], and all the stutter went away.

What were you using for a video card, processor?

I ran that game maxed @ 1920x1080 on a 36" tv with that machine perfectly....

Not saying it didn't fix your problem, but I am saying unless you had some software eating your ram, it wasn't the base of your problem.

qamulek · Sep 12, 2008

niko084 said:
What were you using for a video card, processor?

I ran that game maxed @ 1920x1080 on a 36" tv with that machine perfectly....

Not saying it didn't fix your problem, but I am saying unless you had some software eating your ram, it wasn't the base of your problem.

At the time 8800gts 512+athlonx2@3ghz. I could turn off AA and the stutter would go away, and with AA on the stutter would usually happen whenever the game was trying to load another part of the map which is why I think it was due to not enough ram while using vista x64. In one part where the game makes a transition from outside to inside, the outside frame rate was a nice 50-60[I like my AA...] while the inside framerate tumbled to a mere 4fps and refused to go higher until I went back outside. Adding another 2gb stopped all variations of the stutter. I have a feeling vista decided to shove some data that was meant for ram into the HDD, then in that particularly bad transistion spot didn't stream all the data back into ram

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

qamulek said:
At the time 8800gts 512+athlonx2@3ghz. I could turn off AA and the stutter would go away, and with AA on the stutter would usually happen whenever the game was trying to load another part of the map which is why I think it was due to not enough ram while using vista x64. In one part where the game makes a transition from outside to inside, the outside frame rate was a nice 50-60[I like my AA...] while the inside framerate tumbled to a mere 4fps and refused to go higher until I went back outside. Adding another 2gb stopped all variations of the stutter. I have a feeling vista decided to shove some data that was meant for ram into the HDD, then in that particularly bad transistion spot didn't stream all the data back into ram

Ohh you are talking about single player....

Yeah god only knows at that rate, but I would heavily blame programming for that...

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

That post is completely useless, if you are not going to aid in the discussion do not bother taking up space.

erocker · Sep 12, 2008

niko084 said:
That post is completely useless, if you are not going to aid in the discussion do not bother taking up space.

Especially being that board and those processors are NOT compatible in the least.

FYi, the QX9775 is a socket 771 processor, and the QX9770 is a socket 775 processor.

niko084 · Sep 12, 2008

erocker said:
FYi, the QX9775 is a socket 771 processor, and the QX9770 is a socket 775 processor.

Aw I didn't catch that, I thought it said QX9770...

Still a completely off base post non the less.

modder · Sep 12, 2008

erocker said:
FYi, the QX9775 is a socket 771 processor, and the QX9770 is a socket 775 processor.

thanks erocker

5Babies · Sep 12, 2008

Thanks for your feedback, my Budget isn't extreme for the likes of modders post. Thank you anyway modder, I'll have to win the Lottery to afford that.
With the memory being 3 to 4GB, I honestly didn't know I could get any higher, I don't do any gaming on the PC (except solitare) so I don't need the PC to be to powerful.
As for my budget, I was just going to get the parts when I saw them on special & once I had bought them all, then I was going to build my PC.
I've 4 kids & pregnant with n#5 so money is limited, (as in i can't afford to pay for example $700 on a part straight up), to get all the parts i'll need will take me a few months but I know it'll be worth it in the end.
So your suggestions for a new pc & what parts I'll need will still be greatly appreciated, (no extreme amounts

I keep alot of pics & videos on my pc, so i need alot of memory for that alone. I also burn alot of picture cd's & video DVD's, so a good fast DVD burner is a must.
As I stated above, I would like the Intel Core 2 Duo CPU so If you could give me an idea as to what motheboard I can get to be compatible with that will be a major hurdle for me.
Please don't get to technical on me

I understand a bit about computers, but not upto date on all the tech talk so to speak.
So I'm looking foward to what you can come up with for me.
Thank you so much

5Babies · Sep 12, 2008

Ok thank you, I got a bit lost in the conversation that was taking place. Thank you for telling me about the power supply, i thought that Australia had a higher voltage than USA

modder · Sep 12, 2008

high voltage and Frequency (60 hertz)
in Australia prices are expensive.

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Motherboard	ASUS P5Q-PRO
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Storage	Samsung HD501LJ 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM
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Case	Thermaltake Armor+ MX-Black
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Display(s)	Sony Bravia 37" 1080p
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