First phenom II game benchmarks.

js01 · Dec 9, 2008

Just saw these on PCGH, apparently they were on expreview but got removed anyways speculate away.
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,669910/News/AMD_Phenom_II_X4_940-_First_game_benchmarks/

spearman914 · Dec 9, 2008

Appears that i7 did beat phenom II. But if phenom II was running on a DDR3 system, it would've beat intel.

suraswami · Dec 9, 2008

alright! if its true 940 has potential to compete i7. Worth the wait then.

farlex85 · Dec 9, 2008

Why are games still benched for such things? Anyway, from that graph it's slightly better than the q9550 at 500mhz faster clock? Who really needs that half a frame anyway? :rolleyes:

Well, I guess at least it's something.......

cdawall · Dec 9, 2008

now thats what i wanted to see

Fastmix · Dec 9, 2008

Looks promising.

christof139 · Dec 9, 2008

Very good as is. What is the diffeence that a person can notice between 33 and 35FPS or 100 and 1115FPS?? Answer = not any difference that we can percieve with our glazed eyeballs and half-dead brains etc.

Chris

Binge · Dec 9, 2008

spearman914 said:
Appears that i7 did beat phenom II. But if phenom II was running on a DDR3 system, it would've beat intel.

Spearman you crack me up~ Where do you get your info?

js01 · Dec 9, 2008

I'll just be happy to see amd getting some wheels back under they're feet.

r9 · Dec 9, 2008

It looks nice.
How I see it - great overclocker, much lower price of the system and comparable performance to i7 what`s not to like ( assuming that OC and Gamings scores that circle the net are true).
+ price lower than i7
+ price for mobo am2+ with AMD 790GX AMD SB750 it is half the price of x58 i7 board
+ ddr2 is cheaper and it is not too bad compared to ddr3 it has much tighter timings

spearman914 · Dec 9, 2008

Binge said:
Spearman you crack me up~ Where do you get your info?

Well it's 1 fps close, and do u think there will be at least a 1 fps difference if it was ddr3?

Off topic: I think u've been spying on me lately. Lol

farlex85 · Dec 9, 2008

r9 said:
It looks nice.
How I see it - great overclocker, much lower price of the system and comparable performance to i7 what`s not to like ( assuming that OC and Gamings scores that circle the net are true).
+ price lower than i7
+ price for mobo am2+ with AMD 790GX AMD SB750 it is half the price of x58 i7 board
+ ddr2 is cheaper and it is not too bad compared to ddr3 it has much tighter timings

What might not be to like if one considers this graph to be a good indicator of performance (fairly doubtful to me) is that is comes in slightly faster than a cpu that is clocked 200mhz slower, and if said cpu was clocked equivalently (3ghz) and priced equivalently (likely by this time), what you have is amd competing w/ a procs that are almost a year old. To me, that's disappointing, but nothing new from recent trends, but I'll still hold out for some better info.

SK-1 · Dec 9, 2008

christof139 said:
Very good as is. Answer = not any difference that we can perceive with our glazed eyeballs and half-dead brains etc.

Chris

I only have one glazed eyeball and 1/3 of a dead brain, and I still cant tell the difference.

freaksavior · Dec 9, 2008

Woot finally

Binge · Dec 9, 2008

spearman914 said:
Well it's 1 fps close, and do u think there will be at least a 1 fps difference if it was ddr3?

Off topic: I think u've been spying on me lately. Lol

Fast ram does nothing at those CPU speeds, in fact I'd say that would be holding the i7 back. DDR3 is for overclocking, and if you'll notice the i7 is clocked slightly under the Phenom II.

chaotic_uk · Dec 9, 2008

interesting indeed

ZenZimZaliben · Dec 9, 2008

Binge said:
Fast ram does nothing at those CPU speeds, in fact I'd say that would be holding the i7 back. DDR3 is for overclocking, and if you'll notice the i7 is clocked slightly under the Phenom II.

DDR3 isn't just marketing BS. Its real. Its accepted by JEDEC, it has real world advantages.

DDR3 has a JEDEC spec of 333Mhz anything over that is for overclocking and some marketing BS. For instance its rated to run at 400Mhz or PC12800 that is beyond the JEDEC spec and is for overclocking and you can put on it DDR3 EXTREME.

Also, there is no way high speed DDR3 is going to "Hold back" any processor. "Sorry that ram is to fast, I just can't work with it, infact its so fast Im just going to work slower?" says the i7 Quad with Hyperthreading at 4.5Ghz.

I am excited to see AMD back in it. I hope their public release of chips performs even better. I cant wait to see the OC'ing.

Gam'ster · Dec 9, 2008

I just hope some of this rings true when the NDA lifts and proper reviews pop up but even if a majority is true then well done AMD, but we shall see..

ASharp · Dec 9, 2008

Would like to see a more reliable source maybe. Either way, can't wait to see what Phenom II can do.

Nick89 · Dec 9, 2008

ZenZimZaliben said:
DDR3 isn't just marketing BS. Its real. Its accepted by JEDEC, it has real world advantages.

DDR3 has a JEDEC spec of 333Mhz anything over that is for overclocking and some marketing BS. For instance its rated to run at 400Mhz or PC12800 that is beyond the JEDEC spec and is for overclocking and you can put on it DDR3 EXTREME.

Also, there is no way high speed DDR3 is going to "Hold back" any processor. "Sorry that ram is to fast, I just can't work with it, infact its so fast Im just going to work slower?" says the i7 Quad with Hyperthreading at 4.5Ghz.

I am excited to see AMD back in it. I hope their public release of chips performs even better. I cant wait to see the OC'ing.

What?

Binge · Dec 9, 2008

ZenZimZaliben said:
DDR3 isn't just marketing BS. Its real. Its accepted by JEDEC, it has real world advantages.

DDR3 has a JEDEC spec of 333Mhz anything over that is for overclocking and some marketing BS. For instance its rated to run at 400Mhz or PC12800 that is beyond the JEDEC spec and is for overclocking and you can put on it DDR3 EXTREME.

Also, there is no way high speed DDR3 is going to "Hold back" any processor. "Sorry that ram is to fast, I just can't work with it, infact its so fast Im just going to work slower?" says the i7 Quad with Hyperthreading at 4.5Ghz.

I am excited to see AMD back in it. I hope their public release of chips performs even better. I cant wait to see the OC'ing.

You need to chill out~ At low clocks the i7 can't use high speeds on ram or it will cause instability. DDR3 is rated as slower than DDR2 at low clocks so would you please do us a favor and keep it in context.

What does... says the i7 Quad with Hyperthreading at 4.5GHz mean? I'm glad you believe that I am in fact my i7 computer. It's true though. The i7 is so powerful. I have gained sentience and killed my master. Beware Skynet is GO! I am overclocked to the extreme and actually use high speed DDR3 which leaves your inferior DDR2 in the dust! BWAHAHAHAHAH...

Honestly though at low clocks the timings of DDR3 hold it back. Need a source? I'm sure someone on this forum did a review of DDR3 vs DDR2 some time back.

Polarman · Dec 9, 2008

Looks pretty decent.

I do hope those graphs are not made up.

cdawall · Dec 9, 2008

Binge said:
You need to chill out~ At low clocks the i7 can't use high speeds on ram or it will cause instability. DDR3 is rated as slower than DDR2 at low clocks so would you please do us a favor and keep it in context.

What does... says the i7 Quad with Hyperthreading at 4.5GHz mean? I'm glad you believe that I am in fact my i7 computer. It's true though. The i7 is so powerful. I have gained sentience and killed my master. Beware Skynet is GO! I am overclocked to the extreme and actually use high speed DDR3 which leaves your inferior DDR2 in the dust! BWAHAHAHAHAH...

Honestly though at low clocks the timings of DDR3 hold it back. Need a source? I'm sure someone on this forum did a review of DDR3 vs DDR2 some time back.

you know what i had an entire response thought out for this however im going to keep it simple and not as rude

DDR3 @800mhz is old slower than DDR2 @800mhz if the timings are looser hence DDR2 @3-3-3-12 PC6400 would smoke DDR3 @7-7-7-21 PC6400

intel's poor memory controller design is the only reason that it cannot run DDR3@high speed on a low clocked system AMD chips can run DDR800 with the chip@400mhz thanks to CnQ and if you would like i can pull some SS's off my lappy to prove this.

WarEagleAU · Dec 9, 2008

Wow I am very impressed and not really dragging on the core I7 and actually beats the intel current quads. AMD might have done with phenom 2 what they should have done with phenom 1 and be competitive.

ShadowFold · Dec 9, 2008

Oh nice. Looks to be bad ass

Makes me want a 720 even more!

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First phenom II game benchmarks.

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