Ozz's Forceware Insight and Discussion Thread.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Dec 22, 2008

Hey everybody!
Ever see a new Forceware beta come out and think to yourself "Man, I would really like to know whether or not it would be worth the time to upgrade!"
Well I know I have and I've spent a lot of time driver hopping and reinstalling my OS thanks to this pesky problem. So I've started here a place where we can discuss, test, and bench any and all new beta drivers along with and against the WQHL drivers!

To kick off the discussion I'm going to ask...

Has anybody tested the new beta 181.00 drivers against the 180.48 yet? I've been having some trouble with BSODs on the betas, I'm hoping if I hop back that it will cure my problem.

Useful links!
nVidia Forceware Link Archive

If you have a link that you feel others will find useful, post it and I will add it to the list.

erocker · Dec 22, 2008

I haven't tried the 181's yet, but I've had better results in games with 180.84's over the .48's.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Dec 22, 2008

Really? I haven't tried the .84s yet. To be honest I hadn't realized they were released. I take it they're still in beta?

raptori · Dec 22, 2008

I got worse results with 180.84 over the 180.48 in 3dmark06

OzzmanFloyd120 · Dec 22, 2008

How much worse?

Solaris17 · Dec 22, 2008

i got better scores over the .48's with the .84's im currently using the 181's and i must say they improved my score but not by much..maybe 100-200 points...but i noticed games run smoother...like the fluctuation isnt as big...kinda like raise minimum lower maximum type of thing...their not bad...havent run into any bsods though i cant help ya their. ozz did you ever get that GX2 to run?

OzzmanFloyd120 · Dec 22, 2008

Yeah, runs fine... damn hot (as in nearly 90C load) but it runs.
Wolf and I have been benching my GX2 against his 260 Core216

Solaris17 · Dec 22, 2008

OzzmanFloyd120 said:
Yeah, runs fine... damn hot (as in nearly 90C load) but it runs.
Wolf and I have been benching my GX2 against his 260 Core216

i whanna play

i never get invited to these things

OzzmanFloyd120 · Dec 22, 2008

I have you on my MSN, you're always offline though.

Solaris17 · Dec 22, 2008

OzzmanFloyd120 said:
I have you on my MSN, you're always offline though.

systems been down today though hopefully my ES q6600 is coming so when i get that ill format and rebuild my OS so i should be 100% later today...i just want my proc to come its been like 8 days and its from canada...i can hrow a rock at canada its been in the US for 4 days i live in NH how long does it take to drive here? i could have driven to cali

OzzmanFloyd120 · Dec 22, 2008

Solaris17 said:
systems been down today though hopefully my ES q6600 is coming so when i get that ill format and rebuild my OS so i should be 100% later today...i just want my proc to come its been like 8 days and its from canada...i can hrow a rock at canada its been in the US for 4 days i live in NH how long does it take to drive here? i could have driven to cali

It actually is quicker because of the customs, I live like 30 minutes from Windsor, and I just drive every time I need to go to Canada for something because customs takes so long with packages.

Solaris17 · Dec 22, 2008

OzzmanFloyd120 said:
It actually is quicker because of the customs, I live like 30 minutes from Windsor, and I just drive every time I need to go to Canada for something because customs takes so long with packages.

aahhh shit i forgot about customs...lovely....its going to be gone till afer x-mas...

LAN_deRf_HA · Dec 22, 2008

raptori said:
I got worse results with 180.84 over the 180.48 in 3dmark06

What about with games? Often times (at least with ati) synthetic scores go down with new releases as real game performance goes up. IMO those programs are no longer relevant to anything and rarely reflect real world performance.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jan 1, 2009

Anybody test the 185.20 drivers themselves yet? I'm going to post some screenies as soon as they're done downloading.

FilipM · Jan 1, 2009

Since it is Oh man, has anyone done it yet, gonna ask, is performance going down big time with Ambient Occlusion? Anyone tested? Too lazy, went to bed 6am yesterday so still kinda sleepy, lol

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jan 1, 2009

File_1993 said:
Since it is Oh man, has anyone done it yet, gonna ask, is performance going down big time with Ambient Occlusion? Anyone tested? Too lazy, went to bed 6am yesterday so still kinda shakin, lol

I know how you feel, I went to bed at 5:30 and it feels like my head is in a vice. I'll post DMC4, Crysis, Vantage and some other bench results with both the ambient occlusion on and off when I get them downloaded.

Edit: Let's hope my wifi doesn't crash my computer (dongle isn't 100% compatible with vista :shadedshu

Binge · Jan 1, 2009

before

after

This is a poor comparison because I did change the clocks around, but you usually don't see a 800 point increase from clock changes this small.

Bl4ck · Jan 1, 2009

Downloading the drivers as i write to my laptop, will be back home in 24h so i can check them on my GTX260, tested the betas 181.00 and 180.84, all gave my BSOD's and dumping physical memory BSOD's. reinstalled 180.48WHQL and all ok on my 2008 server standard 32bit.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jan 1, 2009

180.48

185.20

Lost points on CPU, gained points on GPU.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jan 2, 2009

180.48

185.20

180.48

185.20

D007 · Jan 2, 2009

so the "new" drivers are useless..lol.. or am I reading this wrong?
I see worse benchmarks in general.
and minimal changes at best, that could just be completely random.
dang..
I was hoping for better drivers.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jan 2, 2009

Maybe, I'm not seeing any gains on my GX2, but a lot of people with GT200 cards are getting huge gains.

I did get gains in DMC4 however.

180.48

185.20

Something to point out also is that the depth of field changed in Crysis too, if you look the leaves on the trees have softer edges, more realistic to looking at something that's ~200m away.

D007 · Jan 2, 2009

I think I might give it a try .
see how it runs mass effect..
the 180's were crashing me relentlessly.

Thanks a bunch

..

OzzmanFloyd120 · Jan 2, 2009

I do what I can. :toast:

pagalms · Jan 2, 2009

Some benchies coming from me tomorrow if i'll get cdrom to install xp.

I want to test 185.20 against my favorite Quadro FX 178.46

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